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Mohammed: "Whoever changes his religion, him shall ye kill "

Very often one hears the ex-Muslims their former brethren and sisters threatened, injured and even killed during all official Muslim organizations claim that a rejection of Islam is not a problem. Why is that?

If we are to believe polls are many Muslims in Europe believe that it is right to leave Islam to criminalize and outside of Europe there are more and more Islamic states (including Iran) in which even officially the death penalty for this "crime" is imposed - a "crime" which should actually be a natural right for every person.

How fit together? Represented the Islamic associations in this country the right Islam or they only embellishment? Do the Muslims, the believers in this country and in Muslim countries right with your opinion of Ex-Muslims? Have the Ayatollahs and Imams right? What was the opinion of Muhammad?

do we find that out and for that we consider what religion founder Mohammed said on the subject. In addition to the Koran it is said in those traditions which Mohammed did and said (Hadith). In the Hadith, a distinction between reliable and unreliable traditions. Therefore, only we look to the Hadihtensammlung whose reliability is valued highly: Al-Bukhari. There we find many like-and similarly worded statements by Mohammed on change of religion and two of them we want something closer look:

Al-Bukhari, Chapter 50, number 42 'Ikrima reported that'
Alyy (may Allah be pleased with him) burned some people. When Ibn 'Abbas learned of this, he said, "In his place I would not have burned because the Prophet (Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) said:". Takes no penalty to the self-Allah punished " And I would have executed, as the Prophet (Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) said: "Whoever changes his religion, kill ye!"

Al-Bukhari, Chapter 9, paragraph 17
Abdullah reported: Allah's Messenger said, 'The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshiped but Allah and that I am his prophet can not be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and one who turns away from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims. '

The statements of Muhammad are clear. And that is Islam in the world lived like that. Be it in Islamic countries where the killing of apostates case-law is quite general, it is in countries where Muslims and Ex Muslims persecuted, threatened, injured, and be killed.

We see the problems of Islam and apostates has and what lessons we learn from that and the questions asked himself. For instance, asking why Islam has such a thing necessary?

We think that every Muslim must ask himself whether that is his religion - a religion based on violence is to their believers to retain and whether Muhammad really can be a role model.

We see the official Islamic Associations in Europe either do not know what Mohammed has said - which is probably unlikely - or a problem to stand by Muhammad.

We believe the start of the official Islamic associations in Europe are to stand by your religion. If a religion "credible", then one can also point to all this religion openly acknowledge - as do Christians and Jews take for granted. Can not do that, you just testified that it is better to avoid this religion.

A case in point: apostasy - morning at four clock in the morning is the execution

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Guest Post: Islamic dialogue

Subsequent guest contribution from a reader of our weblogs makes clear how difficult a dialogue with Islam is:

In the discussion on. weak expressions of the false prophet , Ismaili Gottesverstümmlung Iranian and Wahhabi tribal rites or double agent? were accused me that my detention offensive into the fundamental foundations of Islamic criticism from a Christian perspective is.

to remain objective after all my efforts in the controversy and focus my opponent, but rather to be more specific, what is important in my opinion just is not for me to understand.

is often stated yes it would be generally better if everyone only cares about that in his own religion "burn". Since then it say that Islam in all its schools of law is diverse Yes so that one of them even have no idea anyway and that in any case must show respect .

Is that a lamination of one's own speechlessness? Probably you can just not imagine that Christians can be formed by an open and factual controversy on all these issues an opinion?

controversy, which had struggled in passionate Christians with Jews and pagans to the truth, it was before and after Mohammed, and also with the followers of the respective heresies never afraid to debate.

It can be hardly any justification to grant a priority heresy. It was Christ Himself who said that would come "many false prophets" (Matt. 7, 15) and that they all "Ravening wolves" in the "tang clothes" would be. The Holy Apostle Paul then explained that even if an "angel" (Gal. 1, 8) would come and bring a different gospel, we should give no credence to this, because "no one can lay other foundation than that which is laid , which is Jesus Christ "(1 Cor. 3, 11).

is to a special treatment that is no reason. It is rather to ask whether Islam is not really the criticism from a Christian perspective really needs.

this but such a criticism can be accepted, it is necessary to deal with the various law schools. Only then can we advance to the level of those issues on to ponder the opposite. Without knowledge about can be a very fundamental critique put, regardless of the accuracy usually leads fairly quickly to an end the discussion. It is therefore an overview of the various intellectual currents and to give each form an opinion.

The questions:

• what are the current trends?


• which are the breaks between the different camps?


• argue how this stock?


• as would be argued with the gospel?

if the arguments for or against a Position when it is placed so that they are not immediately recognizable as a Christian, it should be possible to be accepted as an interlocutor.

Particular attention could be put forward to bringing knowledge from the quarries of church history in a metaphorical form.

If we understand Protestantism as heresy, there is no reason the mind as heresies various law schools to avoid a similarly worded criticism. The Protestants believe finally that they could word of God in their hands, and the Holy Spirit as a replace my academic life to.

Now it is the Koran while not to the Scriptures, but in the Mecca suras should still be associated with particles of it. Those who argued and supported also by comparison with those who argued with the Medina suras would be seen not as far from a Protestant. Who is close to the Medina Suras, has however no commitment is more of something that would do well to just kind of Christian content and thus can be considered not even, strictly speaking, as heretics. It is more like a pagan who attaches a satanic despotism.

Author: Antifo

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Jesus a fraud? God is a scam?

The Crucifixion of Jesus - a terrible event that affected many people to this day - is represented in Islam as a deception.

want the Koran to the following words:

Sura 4:156
And for their unbelief and for their assertion that they were put forward against Mary a tremendous lie
Sura 4:157
for their saying: " We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah, killed "while they had him but killed nor crucified, but this was their only feigned, and those who are in this differ therein are full of doubts also, they have no knowledge of it, but only follow a conjecture, and they did not kill him with certainty.

It is therefore all just been an illusion be?

This sounds of course much harmless as so the suffering that Jesus is gone: the betrayal by a disciple, the humiliation in front of the High Council, the flogging by the Romans, the crown of thorns was put on him to torment him even more and humiliate, carrying the heavy cross and the crucifixion of course - one of the most brutal methods of execution available anywhere today. All in the mind?

Just what do these words from the Koran as well? They say that Jesus and God have staged this show in order to deceive others. The words say in the Quran: "but this was their only pretending." They say that Jesus and God are crooks. The Koran says: Jesus and God are crooks.

Just imagine once. What kind of an image of God Muslims?